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Intercoolers; the good, the bad and the ugly
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STRNPCP
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Intercoolers; the good, the bad and the ugly
Ik was al even op zoek naar een goede intercooler voor mijn JZA70.
Terwijl ik vandaag weer eens naar info daarover zocht kwam ik deze site http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/artic ... n+Part+Two
tegen en het volgende commentaar mbt de stock IC:
Toyota Supra (JZA70) 2.5-litre Air-to-Air Intercooler
Flow - Direction A (air entering shorter pipe) 265 cfm (5th overall)
Direction B (air exiting shorter pipe) 252 cfm
Mass - 3.8kg (5th overall)
Core Measurements - 48.7 x 17.8 x 7.2cm = 6242cm3 (3rd overall)
The 206kW 1JZ-GTE in the Japanese JZA70 Supra is fitted with the long, skinny all aluminium intercooler seen here. This 'cooler offers a huge core volume and impressive thermal mass along with airflow that's bettered by very few in this test. This really is a great unit.
There's no reason why this intercooler can't be used on engines making considerably in excess of 250kW.
Veel beter dan ik had verwacht!
Terwijl ik vandaag weer eens naar info daarover zocht kwam ik deze site http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/artic ... n+Part+Two
tegen en het volgende commentaar mbt de stock IC:
Toyota Supra (JZA70) 2.5-litre Air-to-Air Intercooler
Flow - Direction A (air entering shorter pipe) 265 cfm (5th overall)
Direction B (air exiting shorter pipe) 252 cfm
Mass - 3.8kg (5th overall)
Core Measurements - 48.7 x 17.8 x 7.2cm = 6242cm3 (3rd overall)
The 206kW 1JZ-GTE in the Japanese JZA70 Supra is fitted with the long, skinny all aluminium intercooler seen here. This 'cooler offers a huge core volume and impressive thermal mass along with airflow that's bettered by very few in this test. This really is a great unit.
There's no reason why this intercooler can't be used on engines making considerably in excess of 250kW.
Veel beter dan ik had verwacht!
Last edited by STRNPCP on Sunday 01 July 2007 20:43, edited 1 time in total.
"Simplicity is a prerequisite voor reliability"
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
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Tjabbo
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wtf bedoelen ze met die 'overall' nummers ? 
My blue manual 1989 1JZ Supra twin turbo
My grey automatic 1991 Supra turbo
Whenever a bird shits on my car I eat a plate of scrambled eggs on my front porch, just to show them what I'm capable of.
My grey automatic 1991 Supra turbo
Whenever a bird shits on my car I eat a plate of scrambled eggs on my front porch, just to show them what I'm capable of.
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STRNPCP
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Maar de beste was toch:
New Aftermarket Front-Mount
Flow - Direction A and B 372 cfm (1st overall)
Mass - 7.3kg (1st overall)
Core Measurements - 29.4 x 58.5 x 7.5cm = 12899cm3 (1st overall)
This is the only brand new Japanese aftermarket intercooler on test - it's a yardstick to compare the OE cores. As you can see, this is a positively huge intercooler that ranks Number One in core volume, mass and flow. Note that it outflows the best OE intercooler (the Series 6 RX-7) by a relatively small 20 percent, but its heat exchange potential is in another league.
This intercooler could be used in pretty well any high-powered turbo or supercharged streetcar - assuming it can be made to fit!
Helaas wel wat zwaar.
Misschien iemand anders nog meer cijfers, van andere FMIC?
New Aftermarket Front-Mount
Flow - Direction A and B 372 cfm (1st overall)
Mass - 7.3kg (1st overall)
Core Measurements - 29.4 x 58.5 x 7.5cm = 12899cm3 (1st overall)
This is the only brand new Japanese aftermarket intercooler on test - it's a yardstick to compare the OE cores. As you can see, this is a positively huge intercooler that ranks Number One in core volume, mass and flow. Note that it outflows the best OE intercooler (the Series 6 RX-7) by a relatively small 20 percent, but its heat exchange potential is in another league.
This intercooler could be used in pretty well any high-powered turbo or supercharged streetcar - assuming it can be made to fit!
Helaas wel wat zwaar.
Misschien iemand anders nog meer cijfers, van andere FMIC?
"Simplicity is a prerequisite voor reliability"
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
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STRNPCP
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Het artikel gaat over:Tjabbo wrote:wtf bedoelen ze met die 'overall' nummers ?
Measuring the airflow and thermal efficiency of twenty-five Japanese import intercoolers...
"Simplicity is a prerequisite voor reliability"
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
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Tjabbo
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jeah maar bij elke ic staan verschillende getallen.
verwarrend hoor.
verwarrend hoor.
My blue manual 1989 1JZ Supra twin turbo
My grey automatic 1991 Supra turbo
Whenever a bird shits on my car I eat a plate of scrambled eggs on my front porch, just to show them what I'm capable of.
My grey automatic 1991 Supra turbo
Whenever a bird shits on my car I eat a plate of scrambled eggs on my front porch, just to show them what I'm capable of.
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Tjabbo
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De jza cooler doet het goed.
maar is die niet haast gelijk aan die van de ma70?
dan is dat natuurlijk ook een hele goede
maar is die niet haast gelijk aan die van de ma70?
dan is dat natuurlijk ook een hele goede
My blue manual 1989 1JZ Supra twin turbo
My grey automatic 1991 Supra turbo
Whenever a bird shits on my car I eat a plate of scrambled eggs on my front porch, just to show them what I'm capable of.
My grey automatic 1991 Supra turbo
Whenever a bird shits on my car I eat a plate of scrambled eggs on my front porch, just to show them what I'm capable of.
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STRNPCP
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Jaha!
Maar ik wilde weten hoe deze IC zich verhoud tov de stock IC, vandaar deze cijfers.
De core size van mijn FMIC is 600 x 400 x 75 mm =18000cm3. Dat is 3x zo groot als de stock en 50% groter dan de geteste aftermarket FMIC.
Ik ben benieuwd hoe we die gaan laten passen
Maar ik wilde weten hoe deze IC zich verhoud tov de stock IC, vandaar deze cijfers.
De core size van mijn FMIC is 600 x 400 x 75 mm =18000cm3. Dat is 3x zo groot als de stock en 50% groter dan de geteste aftermarket FMIC.
Ik ben benieuwd hoe we die gaan laten passen
"Simplicity is a prerequisite voor reliability"
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
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STRNPCP
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Ook even de cijfers van een echter Spearco (voor de 7M) opgezocht:
Spearco front mount intercooler kit for the Toyota supra turbo 1987 to 1992.
Made by Turbonetics/Spearco using a genuine Garret core.
Flow approx 1100 cfm
Spearco front mount intercooler kit for the Toyota supra turbo 1987 to 1992.
Made by Turbonetics/Spearco using a genuine Garret core.
Flow approx 1100 cfm
"Simplicity is a prerequisite voor reliability"
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
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STRNPCP
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Het gaat ook m.n. om de breedte. Hij is nl. 10 cm breder dan standaard upgrade FMICs.mmarkk wrote:60cm lengte past makkelijk
(Dus komt hij wrs. wat lager dan normaal)
De maximale lengte is overigens 785mm (End tank TO End tank)
"Simplicity is a prerequisite voor reliability"
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
"Lag is that short period of time when 'the cars' next to you think they are going to win".
(Originally by buckshotglass:)
